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Message started by Steve on Nov 5th, 2008, 4:24pm

Title: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by Steve on Nov 5th, 2008, 4:24pm

Five is to launch on Freesat later this month, it has been announced.

The terrestrial channel has been notably absent from the service since its launch in May this year due to "rights issues". The broadcaster has now resolved the problems and will launch its flagship service on Freesat on Tuesday, November 18.

Freesat MD Emma Scott described Five, which will join the Freesat EPG on channel 105, as a "fantastic addition" to the service.

Charles Constable, Five's director of strategy, added: "I am delighted that Five will be available to Freesat viewers. Our launch will support three of Five's objectives: to be universally available throughout the UK, to let viewers watch our programmes on the platform of their choice, and to enable as many people as possible to watch Five free of charge."

Launch dates for Five's digital channels Five US and Fiver have yet to be confirmed.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 5th, 2008, 5:47pm

Here are some programmes on/ coming soon on HD.

1: Little Dorrit - BBC

2: Oceans - BBC
Landmark Natural Histroy Series

3: Apparitions - BBC
Spooky new drama series (Autumn)

4: Wallander - BBC
Detective drama series starring - love or loathe him -

5: Oasis at The Electric Proms - BBC
'Exactly what it says on the tin!'

6: Heroes - BBC
Season 3

7: Survivors - BBC
Apocalyptic drama (Max Beasley, Julie Graham,
Freema Agyeman)

8: Rugby Six Nations (Feb) - BBC

9: Champions League - ITV

10: Fringe - Sky1 HD
US paranormal thriller.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 5th, 2008, 5:47pm

ITV HD

The Bill (Wednesday/Thursday)
The Commander (10th/11th/12th)

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 5th, 2008, 7:41pm

Anyone actually got a freesat box? is the HD good? does picture block?



Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by Steve on Nov 5th, 2008, 9:03pm

I know someone who has the Humax box and it looks nice on their 42" plasma via HDMI

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Nov 6th, 2008, 8:26am

i have a hummy freesat box steve,great pics on HD & digital,no picture block on mine.
What few progs on itv hd can be found here
Code:
http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.php/freesat-channels/itv-hd-schedule


bbc hd here
Code:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?service_id=2075&day=Monday




                                H.

Ps thanks 4 the info about chan 5 steve  ;)

                                           

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 6th, 2008, 2:23pm

Thanks H, fed up waiting for the DB8000, have been looking at the Humax so may well get one, aint seen HD on my tele yet and I'm getting impatient.
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 6th, 2008, 5:55pm

Yes I have a fortec passion hd, the HD is brill, and if you put a cam into it you can see , eg Prem HD.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by john_c on Nov 7th, 2008, 10:47am

hi i also have the passion,no probs.use pred cam. chan 5 now on astra 2a fta.  10773, h 22000.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 7th, 2008, 8:22pm

@Cromwell, thanks for the links mate, there seems to be some conflict though, how many channels can you have on the Fortec, one says 2000 and the other says 10,000
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 7th, 2008, 9:23pm

Receive over 250 free-to-air digital channels and HD broadcasts from the Astra 28.2E satellite and

10,000 channel memory (7,000 TV, 3,000 radio)

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 7th, 2008, 9:27pm

But there is two, the latest is the plus have a look at it here

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=224742&DOY=7m11

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 7th, 2008, 9:31pm

Thanks guys, I'll have a ponder over the weekend, looks like a good unit, about time I changed my Echostar, I've only had it 12 years.  ;D
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 8th, 2008, 9:36am

But don't forget m8, you will need a cam.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 8th, 2008, 10:12am

have a dragon which is in the echostar and gets me most of prem
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 8th, 2008, 10:18am

I am using a Dragon m8, but when Prem finishes what will e have then ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 8th, 2008, 11:31am

thats my only thought as well, apart from the fta on 28.8 in HD there wont be a lot worth watching, which is why I was hanging on for the DB 8000
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 8th, 2008, 4:08pm

Or we could get the Diablo ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 8th, 2008, 8:56pm

I guarentee if we get a diablo it will last a week and there will be a new all singing all dancing cam out and the diablo wont be supporeted any more and we'll be out of pocket again! lol
I have a drawfull of cams that were going to last forever, the dragon has been the best for support by far.
I have to admit I know little about the support for the Diablo and don't know what it gets?
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Nov 9th, 2008, 9:32am

Diablo cam is the best thing i`ve ever bought,got mine when it first came out,had it updated when conax came out.
Just like owt else steve  it could end tomorrow & then blank tv`s,but this cam is very well supported @ the moment & has been 4 a while now.Not sure but i think this cam is about the only thing that opens conax (thor) @ the moment,could be wrong though.
With prem closing down 2 us i think something else will open & as you say a new cam will appear,but the diablo might just open it,you never know.
I havn`t moved my dish from thor 4 since it`s been open so not 2 sure whats open on this cam @ the moment.
It`s all a risk in this game steve no matter what you buy.


                              H.

Ps Diablo 2.3 cam also needs a cas3  2 program it,so if anyone is thinking of buying these then look 4 places that are doing a package deal on both(cheaper)


Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 9th, 2008, 9:37am

Thanks H, i have a cas 3, I'll have a look round and see what else the diablo opens
cheers mate
steve

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Nov 9th, 2008, 9:56am

Will have a look round 4 you m8

Wouldn`t like 2 tell anyone what 2 buy but i`ve seen quite a few folk going 4 the fortec star passion from maplins 159.99,here are the specs.

   *  HD satellite receiver with superb Standard Definition (SD) and High Definition (HD) picture quality
   * USB PVR function - plug in an external hard drive to record digital satellite TV in SD or HD
   * Receive over 250 free-to-air digital channels and HD broadcasts from the Astra 28.2E satellite
   * HD upscaling for standard definition, improves picture quality through HDMI or component connections
   * ''Plug ''n'' play'' ready; pre-loaded with all Freesat channels currenlty available in the UK
   * Complete channel list and pre-sorted favourites (general, news, children, music, films, other)
   * DisEqC for motorised positioning systems
   * 2 USB 2.0 ports (front and rear) for recording and software updates
   * Plays MP3s from a USB memory stick
   * Power search - automatic satellite channel updates in standby mode
   * HDMI and component (YPbPr) outputs
   * Parental lock facility
   * 2 CI slots for pay satellites
   * Multiple output resolutions: 1080i, 720p, 576p, 480p, 576i, 480i
   * 10,000 channel memory (7,000 TV, 3,000 radio)
   * MPEG4/H.264 is an improved compression process for digital television and HDTV, 1080i (interlaced) and 720p (progressive) HDTV video format.


                            H.

ps this post has some info on whats open but it`s not upto date,you can add conax thor 2 the list.will post again if i find a upto date list


Code:
http://www.satellites.co.uk/satellite/x-cam-ultra-cam-dragon-cam-diablo-t-rex/125958-diablo-cam-2-3-channels.html

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 9th, 2008, 9:56am

Yes it is the best at present, but the last update cost them 25 ?

AND WE CALL IT FREE TV, lol.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 9th, 2008, 1:42pm

I'm assuming that with the right cam and the Fortec, prem in HD is viewable? any other channels on thor etc that are in HD?

@Cromwell, why was the last update 25??

haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 9th, 2008, 4:28pm

It was 2.2 and to get 2.3 you had to pay ?  and we all slag sky, but the tell you that they are going to rob you, LOL.

You would get what any box would give you m8.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Nov 9th, 2008, 4:32pm

can`t check the HD @ the moment as cam needs updating & my comp which i use 4 updating is out of action.
As 2 the 25 it was 2 upgrade diablo 2.2 cams 2 the new 2.3 cams 2 save folk  forking out the full amount 4 a new cam.The 2.2 cams couldn`t handle conax so they say.


                                     H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 9th, 2008, 4:47pm

Yes m8, they did every one a favour, LOL , why not 5 instead of 25 ? I am not getting at you  invalid m8, but it was a con ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Nov 9th, 2008, 4:49pm


haga wrote:
thats my only thought as well, apart from the fta on 28.8 in HD there wont be a lot worth watching, which is why I was hanging on for the DB 8000
haga


But you will still only get the same m8 but a lot more money ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Nov 9th, 2008, 5:08pm

Your right, but at least with the DB 8000 you can connect to a share and get full packages of what ever is in the share, no more cams, just new images for the DB. But I'm seriously looking at the Fortec, was the 2.3 for the diablo not leaked onto the net or was the upgrade only from the cam makers, normally as I say. they appear on various forums for upload.
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by sleepy on Nov 9th, 2008, 9:05pm

Back to ch5 for a moment  ;D i was just about to watch a film and up popped the message "the scheduled programme is not available on freesat".
Just wondering WTF they're up to the dozy twonks, whats the bloody difference between now and Nov 18th (yes i know its 9 days :)).
Perhaps they're just trying to p*ss people off, it worked on me !!!!! >:(

Rant over.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 4th, 2008, 6:02pm

Bloody marvelous, decided to treat myself to a Fortec Passion+, Maplins are out of stock and only have 'B' grade ones in stock, and I want a silver one, have had a look in the usual places, nothing.
anyone know any where? links appreciated, specially if you have used them
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 4th, 2008, 7:34pm

I got one off ebay m8, new.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 4th, 2008, 8:03pm

Went that route, only a couple of second hand ones on there, tried satstore and satellite superstore, I'm in no real rush, something will turn up

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 4th, 2008, 8:15pm

I will look around for you m8, has it got to have the USB at the back ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 4th, 2008, 9:46pm

No mate not really but I would like the passion+ and in silver.
thanks F
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 4th, 2008, 10:44pm

i`ve just got the passion+(black) this morning from maplins in mansfield,looks a nice piece of kit 4 the price.


                             H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 4th, 2008, 10:59pm

Steve just had a look round 4 you,i put essex in the search & these came up,don`t know if any are near you.


Code:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/NearestStore.aspx?scmd=selectLocation&ordercode=A50HX&location=571400.00%2c208200.00&place=Essex&doy=4m12



                                                   H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 5th, 2008, 1:33pm

Hi H, let me know how you get on with your new toy.
have checked and called all the ones listed for essex and parts of suffolk and all those listed are B grade units (returned from customers) they can't say when any new stock will arrive, I'll wait if I have to
thanks mate
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 6th, 2008, 9:00am

only got it on a fixed dish 4 astra 28*,got a 350g external HDD plugged in on the front usb slot.No problem recording HD or normal SD programs,only tried 4 a short time just 2 test it out,the files are saved as mpeg ts so no problem converting them 2 put on dvd if you want.
You will need a big drive if recording HD,i only had it recording 4 about 15mins & the file is 1.46gb.


                                               H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 6th, 2008, 10:42am

whats the quality of the HD channels like? is it as easy to set up and use as has been said

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 6th, 2008, 12:20pm

HD is spot on steve,very good infact but only had BBC HD on,i found it easy enough 2 setup on astra but don`t know about setting up on a motorized setup.
Menu`s easy on the eye 2 go through,epg works ok.As i`ve said before very good box 4 the price,can`t fault it as yet.



                                                   H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 13th, 2008, 12:38pm

Back in stock at Maplins so just ordered one, delivery next week, then the fun will begin with all the questions and HELP!!!! lol
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 13th, 2008, 1:44pm

Have you got your HDMI cable ?   ::)

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 13th, 2008, 4:02pm

Yes mate, have a couple of good ones lying around, any predator files around for my dragon that open anything???
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 13th, 2008, 4:11pm

I Will send you it m8

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 13th, 2008, 4:18pm

You should have it now. let us know m8.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 13th, 2008, 4:24pm

Thanks F, got them, I'll have a play later, is there any known problems running Dragon through the Fortec.
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 13th, 2008, 5:42pm

No m8, have mine working in it and you can put a S card in it.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by billy on Dec 14th, 2008, 10:52pm

anyone got a list of HD channels on this box with a moter dish ???

thanks  

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 15th, 2008, 12:15am

there`s a list of all hd chans on kingofsat
Code:
http://en.kingofsat.net/hdtv.php

Just depends what card/cam etc you have 2 decode them.
i`ve got mine on a fixed dish 28e so i can only get bbc,itv & luxe tv in hd but if it was motorized then i should with a diablo 2.3  be able 2 get all hd on thor(conax) with the correct settings.(as i  can with my humax 2000 with diablo)
Don`t know about other sats as i don`t bother with them,never moved dish off thor after it was open.


                                           H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by billy on Dec 16th, 2008, 12:59am

cheers H

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 16th, 2008, 6:51pm

Oh well hear goes, it turned up today, instruction book in German!! downloaded the English version from the web site, loaded up and cant find channel 5 (yet) but most others appear to be there. Inserted cam and it recognised that ok, set the diseq 1.2 up and set 28, then went to old Astra at 19 east by manually moving the dish, did a scan and got channels, saved. went to go back to 28 and...........nothing, fcucking dish didn't move, so manually went back to 28 degrees, saved again, then went to 19 degrees again, nothing, fcucking dish didn't move, I can move the dish manually but it wont do it automatically, so gave up, ate tea, swore several times, had a row with the wife, now sitting and sulking.
I'll try again tomorrow when I'm in a better mood.
Always seems to happen to me, nothing is ever easy and straight forward.
haga (still with the hump)

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by invalid on Dec 16th, 2008, 9:37pm

Well mine is on a fixed dish but just had a quick look @ the settings 4 motor & it looks straight forward.
Right you`ve gone into menu,installation,antenna setup right,have you gone to positioner setup & set it @ DISEqC 1.2 for your motor then pressed red button 2 save ? Did you then press OK on remote 2 go into the diseqc 1.2 menu & set your motor up there ?
With the looks of it you have 2 setup the east west limits etc before it will work right from what i can make out.
My setup isn`t straight forward 2 get @ steve or i would connect it up 2 my motor dish & check it out properly 4 you m8.
Sorry i can`t be of more help


                                                  H.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 16th, 2008, 10:27pm

@H, lol mate, sorted thanks, my fault and you were spot on, once I'd set the Diseq 1.2 etc I hadn't noticed the save!!! I'm so used to pressing OK on the Echostar all these years to save I'd done the same on the Fortec, have put a post it note on the screen 'H Says Don't Forget to Save!'
deffo aint got 5 tho, so I'll have to do an update by the looks of it

cheers me old mate
steve

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 17th, 2008, 11:23am

The latest update is on here m8, what do you think of it ?

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 17th, 2008, 12:02pm

Hi mate, still struggling to get other sats, I do all the saves and manually move it to the sat I want, get the list and save, push the sat button to go back to 28 east and nothing, I also have the transponder loaded for channel 5 but still aint got it, I'll get used to it eventually but I have to say it's giving me the hump at the moment.
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by cromwell on Dec 17th, 2008, 12:34pm

I have a twin LNB so my TM 1500 controls the dish m8. have a look to see if the limits are set.

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 17th, 2008, 3:06pm

I've set limits, stored everything, it just refuses to move dish automatically, it's fine if I move it in manual mode, just wondering if it's not compatible with my V-Box, which converts diseq 1.2 to voltage. I'll have a play for the rest of the day, if I get no luck it's going back to Maplins.
haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Dec 17th, 2008, 4:52pm

I'm really dissapointed with this unit, I had high hopes, the picture quality was good but it would not move the dish no matter what I did, it would move east or west if I did it manually, but after setting it and storing it, no movement.
I called Fortec in the UK only to get a recorded message telling me to send an email, which I did, but I've heard nothing. At 160 I'm not prepared to keep it as a stand alone unit just for Freesat.
Have read through a few forums and it seems there are more faulty units out there than there are good ones.
Called Maplin and they are picking it up Friday and I'm getting a full refund.
I will get another multi sat but rest assured my friends, it wont be a Fortec

haga

Title: Re: Ch5 goes FTA on November 18th
Post by haga on Jan 3rd, 2009, 11:31am

As a foot note to the above, I never got a reply from Fortec, which I think is very poor, not even an acknowledgement. Maplins never replied to my emails either, I sent several regarding the refund which I paid by paypal and had to involve them to get my money back, which doesn't say a lot for Maplins.
I'm now waiting for the new Echostar HD which is due late Feb/March.
watch this space
haga

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